The Hondata Reflash THE best bang for the buck on your 04-06 TSX
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The Hondata Reflash THE best bang for the buck on your 04-06 TSX
If you didn't want or have a reflash before I wrote this, you will want one after you read it:
The Hondata Reflash THE best bang for the buck on your 04-06 TSX - HeelToe Automotive
For those of you that already have the reflash, please review it here:
Hondata Reflash, 04-06 K24A2 CL9 TSX Manual and Automatic, Reflash - HeelToe Automotive
The Hondata Reflash THE best bang for the buck on your 04-06 TSX - HeelToe Automotive
For those of you that already have the reflash, please review it here:
Hondata Reflash, 04-06 K24A2 CL9 TSX Manual and Automatic, Reflash - HeelToe Automotive
Originally Posted by mrheeltoe
The engine in your TSX is controlled by a computer, which should come as no surprise. The computer, like all computers, are dumb. They just do what some programmer somewhere told it to do. Meaning, your car is running on a program made by some nameless, faceless engineering group at Honda to be the best Honda it can be.
Unfortunately for you, that does not mean it is the best PERFORMING Honda it can be. Engineers have to report to the company which needs to report to its customers. Not all customers are power-hungry pedal stoppers like you and I are. Therefore, there is almost always some power left on the table somewhere.
The Hondata Reflash for the 04-06 TSX is a revamped set of parameters that is downloaded onto your stock computer to de-geek it. Ironically, the program of the reflash was developed by the biggest Honda-geek of them all, Doug who is the head honcho at Hondata. That anyone, for a mere few hundred bucks, can get a fully optimized ECU tune by one of the modern-day masters is nothing short of a no-brainer.
During a recent dyno testing stint at Church Auto Testing in Wilmington, CA, I had the opportunity to do a little before-and-after test of the reflash on my personal HTSpec TSX. This 2004 model has about 120,000 miles on it and minimal mods (just an CT-Engineering Carbon Icebox, UR Underdrive Pulleys, and a Fujitsubo exhaust). Check out the before and after dyno graph:
READ MORE ABOUT HOW IT WORKS HERE:
The Hondata Reflash THE best bang for the buck on your 04-06 TSX - HeelToe Automotive
Unfortunately for you, that does not mean it is the best PERFORMING Honda it can be. Engineers have to report to the company which needs to report to its customers. Not all customers are power-hungry pedal stoppers like you and I are. Therefore, there is almost always some power left on the table somewhere.
The Hondata Reflash for the 04-06 TSX is a revamped set of parameters that is downloaded onto your stock computer to de-geek it. Ironically, the program of the reflash was developed by the biggest Honda-geek of them all, Doug who is the head honcho at Hondata. That anyone, for a mere few hundred bucks, can get a fully optimized ECU tune by one of the modern-day masters is nothing short of a no-brainer.
During a recent dyno testing stint at Church Auto Testing in Wilmington, CA, I had the opportunity to do a little before-and-after test of the reflash on my personal HTSpec TSX. This 2004 model has about 120,000 miles on it and minimal mods (just an CT-Engineering Carbon Icebox, UR Underdrive Pulleys, and a Fujitsubo exhaust). Check out the before and after dyno graph:
READ MORE ABOUT HOW IT WORKS HERE:
The Hondata Reflash THE best bang for the buck on your 04-06 TSX - HeelToe Automotive
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J_Phil (10-25-2012)
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ive been fighting with getting either the reflash for 300, or the fully customizable flash pro which ill have to buy a new ecu plus the price of flash pro totaling about $1200. is the reflash based soley on the ecu performance in and of itself or is it mod based/optimized per performance part, and if the latter, why in the name of all things good do i need a new ecu for flash pro and not for the reflash?
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J_Phil (10-25-2012)
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After getting my 04 6speed reflashed It feels like a TOTALLY different car. AMAZING. I highly recommend it
07-08 can be reflashed at certain Hondata dealers. See if one is close to you http://www.hondata.com/hondata_dealer_reflash.html
07-08 can be reflashed at certain Hondata dealers. See if one is close to you http://www.hondata.com/hondata_dealer_reflash.html
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After getting my 04 6speed reflashed It feels like a TOTALLY different car. AMAZING. I highly recommend it
07-08 can be reflashed at certain Hondata dealers. See if one is close to you http://www.hondata.com/hondata_dealer_reflash.html
07-08 can be reflashed at certain Hondata dealers. See if one is close to you http://www.hondata.com/hondata_dealer_reflash.html
when the heck did this happen?????
thanks! delslo
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Instructor
Man I think I am gonna do this during my upcoming Vegas trip since I will be getting a ride to the airport anyway this will be the perfect downtime to have my reflash done...
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Hey Marcus, its me again lol. Question, I don't think I'll be adding on any more bolt ons that will affect a/f ratio other than the ones i have now. Would things like the hondata gasket, UR pulleys, or tb bypass warrant a tune to draw as much power out of it as possible or can i put on things like those after the reflash and still reap the full benefits of said mods?
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the OC, southern cali
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if the tuner is good and you are not all about the cost of tuning then it can be done and should be done. it just takes more time from the tuner. which equals to more cost up front. usually the average increase of mpg is about 30% more mpg from your current average. plus you get more power.
over the long run youll save money on gas and the fun factor of driving goes up.
Last edited by 949; 11-17-2012 at 01:33 PM.
#19
Hey Marcus, its me again lol. Question, I don't think I'll be adding on any more bolt ons that will affect a/f ratio other than the ones i have now. Would things like the hondata gasket, UR pulleys, or tb bypass warrant a tune to draw as much power out of it as possible or can i put on things like those after the reflash and still reap the full benefits of said mods?
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There will be no mpg gains from the Hondata Reflash.
In theory, you may be able to gain MPG by building a mild & leaner tune with FlashPro but no way would that ever pay for itself.
If you are looking for MPG gains, leave your car stock & save the money you spend on mods for purchasing gas.
#21
Racer
There will be no mpg gains from the Hondata Reflash.
In theory, you may be able to gain MPG by building a mild & leaner tune with FlashPro but no way would that ever pay for itself.
If you are looking for MPG gains, leave your car stock & save the money you spend on mods for purchasing gas.
In theory, you may be able to gain MPG by building a mild & leaner tune with FlashPro but no way would that ever pay for itself.
If you are looking for MPG gains, leave your car stock & save the money you spend on mods for purchasing gas.
You would have to be a very disciplined soul to milk any mpg out of this upgrade. I'm confident that everybody who has done this upgrade has seen their mpg decrease due to the "fun factor". The TSX is a driver's car, and the reflash upgrade makes it a lot more fun to push it to its limits.
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I could type a novel but all the answers you need are on the Hondata website. http://www.hondata.com/wizard/wiz_tsx.html
I recommend that everyone read the Hondata website top to bottom. It has a ton of information, for Hondata products, plus technical information,
plus a technical forum.
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dslexic (12-28-2012)
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I could type a novel but all the answers you need are on the Hondata website. http://www.hondata.com/wizard/wiz_tsx.html
I recommend that everyone read the Hondata website top to bottom. It has a ton of information, for Hondata products, plus technical information,
plus a technical forum.
I recommend that everyone read the Hondata website top to bottom. It has a ton of information, for Hondata products, plus technical information,
plus a technical forum.
#31
+1
You would have to be a very disciplined soul to milk any mpg out of this upgrade. I'm confident that everybody who has done this upgrade has seen their mpg decrease due to the "fun factor". The TSX is a driver's car, and the reflash upgrade makes it a lot more fun to push it to its limits.
You would have to be a very disciplined soul to milk any mpg out of this upgrade. I'm confident that everybody who has done this upgrade has seen their mpg decrease due to the "fun factor". The TSX is a driver's car, and the reflash upgrade makes it a lot more fun to push it to its limits.
Like I said, wouldn't do it for that reason, just curious.
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Here are my dyno results for mine...
Here is a run down of the graph:
Blue Line - stock motor w/CT icebox, Hondata IM gasket, modded stock exhaust
Green Line - same as above but added PLM header with Test Pipe
Red Line - Same as green line but with Hondata Reflash.
If you look right at 6K - I gained over 40whp from the blue to the red - and it can be felt in the car big time - I highly recommend these mods they do a boatload to the car - make it feel much more responsive and just pulls harder.
Here is a run down of the graph:
Blue Line - stock motor w/CT icebox, Hondata IM gasket, modded stock exhaust
Green Line - same as above but added PLM header with Test Pipe
Red Line - Same as green line but with Hondata Reflash.
If you look right at 6K - I gained over 40whp from the blue to the red - and it can be felt in the car big time - I highly recommend these mods they do a boatload to the car - make it feel much more responsive and just pulls harder.
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