TinkySD

This is an awesome graph for analysis.



dotted blue -Dougs Stock(no intake nor headers)
dotted green -Dougs Hondata + comptech i/h
solid blue -Taewlee Injen CAI
pink -Taewlee Hondata + Injen CAI


you can reference this page, http://www.hondata.com/images/dyno-k...stock-tund.gif, to see dougs' dotted blue line is all stock not with i/h.

Dan Martin

+42 hp and +37 lb ft

Very nice numbers!

taewlee

you got it wrong, dotted blue is WITH COMPTECH header aND intake... as you can see, comptech didnt provide much gain at all. If you want most power for your buck, go with injen.. If you want to stay as close to stock as possible with less noise, go with comptech. One thing doug said good about comptech intake was that it wasn't as noisy as injen. But i dont give a f$%k about noise. I just want max hp.

Dan Martin

The dotted blue is pretty strong for a stock car. 185hp at the hubs should be around 212 at the crank.

taewlee

which comes to the conclusion, injen cai with header has a very high chance of putting more power than hondata's tsx. Im ready to buy a header it's just not enough choices for me to pick yet......

TinkySD

Actually you're not right here. Look at this graph: http://www.hondata.com/images/dyno-k...stock-tund.gif


Dotted purple = dougs car stock
orange = dougs car comptec i/h
green = hondata + i/h

Now which line does the dotted blue in your graph look like? the dotted purple one. Shape of the curve is the same and value are near the same.

Dan Martin

Ok if dotted blue isn't stock then what is? Actually maybe you could list the colors to clear up the confusion.

TinkySD

Look at my latest post. Also, vwong dyno'd his all stock and put down 185hp and 158lbft torque all stock(and on the exact same dyno). The dotted blue one is a stock motor.(no i/h)

taewlee

lol damn, people just take info given to them and turn it into whatever they want it to be... that's ok, it's a common problem. anyways, doug created that dyno to see the comptech stuff and injen stuff before hondata. dotted blue line is not stock, it has comptech header and intake.

TinkySD

I'm turning it into what it is. Doug must have put the wrong curve on the graph.
There is no way you can tell me the dotted orange curve in the graph below(form hondata) which is comptech i/h no hondata is the same as the dotted blue graph in your dyno. Not only is the curve different but hte numbers don't match up. IN the organge graph(comptech i/h no tune) at 4500 rpm he's making almost 170lbft) not the 150 lbft that is on the dotted blue graph.

THe only way the dotted blue graph could be comptech i/h is if you produced less power with them than you do with a stock car and have the exact same shape torque curve. That's not possible. That' snot to say injen/dc isn't the best way to go for max power, it probably is.



here is the taweless dynos



dotted blue and orange lines the same? Nope. Dotted blue and dotted purple? yep. dotted blue and dotted purple are both stock.

taewlee

please dont post hondata's and my dyno if you are going to falsify it

TinkySD

don't be a no one falsified anything.

If you can make an actual arguement on facts why the dotted blue line isn't a stock car other than "doug said it" then there is something to talk about. I'm sure someone just made a mistake telling you that's what it was.

Now I appreaciate all lthe dynos you've provided and what not but don't get upset that i pointed out something that appears to be factual. (if someone can prove to me that i'm wrong, i'll gladly apologize but I don't believe I am based on all the dynos we have off the same dyno)

Tsx536

Boy am I confused

taewlee

actaully, after looking at the graphs carefully... the dotted blue line does look stock lol... i guess he gave me comparison to his stock car...

taewlee

tinky, i will email you all the dynos i got, lets start a new thread.. this thread is jumping everywhere. I saved 3 of the dynos, we can start a new thread which compares all hondata dynos..

TinkySD

Of course. I, and I think all of us, really appreciate all the time you put into getting dynos and sharing them with us!

taewlee

sorry for getting mad cause you disregarded what i said, but you actaully looked the graphs carefully and compared it to this one
http://www.hondata.com/images/dyno-k...stock-tund.gif
which i've never seen before.
but after looking at your dyno, I can see where the comptech header and intake went over 200 with the red line. Gyah, this whole time I thought the dotted blue line was with comptech header and intake when it was stock!!!! LOL i thought comptech was horrible because of that but i guess comptech isnt so bad =P

TinkySD

That graph comes form this page: http://www.hondata.com/reflash_tsx.html near the bottom.

I have a feeling the most power to be had is going to be injen+header!

taewlee

good job tinky (or good eyes)

i hope that all tsx buyers are smart in their own way

TinkySD

haha..mistakes happen. At least you didn't break your intake like I did

taewlee

i take it back, you're not smart lol

hondata

Blue Dotted line - Manual Transmission TSX with Injen intake and Hondata reflash compared to:
Yellow line - Auto Transmisison TSX with Injen intake Hondata reflash (300 miles on the clock)

Dyno run started at 2500rpm on Auto and 1500rpm on manual.

High torque on Auto at low RPM due to torque converter.

Dan Martin

Do you have a basline for the AT?

hondata

Yes -

Absolutely stock 300 mile old auto TSX with and without Hondata reflash (now available)

Notes:

- This was an 05 TSX with an 04 computer.
- The gains are exceptionally good for not having an intake and header.
- The 7600 RPM rev limit is only accessable in manual mode. Shift points have not changed.

Dan Martin

Very nice! That should make some members happy.

xizor

that curve looks great, there will be non-stop AT chatter tomorrow.

Dan Martin

I'm going to get some sleep and rest up for tomorrow's whorefest.

hondata

Yellow - Injen intake, Auto TSX, reflash
Pink - Auto TSX, reflash
Green - Auto TSX

dzuy

wow.



there you go domn and cgtsx2004! time to reflash yo!

:troutslap

xizor

thank you for dynoing w/ a CAI, and doing multiple configurations

Tsx536

Hondata for the 5AT!

Thanks for the updated info Hondata! Time to start making the arrangements. Muuahaha

provench

Wow ... time to consider Hondata as my first mod!!! It certainly seems to stand on its own

Edit: So who can plug the 6MT stock + Hondata in to car simulation program and crank out some 0-60 and 1/4 mile guesstimates/improvements

Ohhhhhhh Tinnnnnnky?

jiggaman

that is unreal what hondata can do to unleash the power of the TSX engine

TinkySD

Holy crap, even with a stock engine the gains are huge!

Now I just need to save up 600 dollars and make a 1.5 hour drive to epic motorsports

jiggaman

i have the 600 but my girlfriend needs her brakes fixed, boo hoo. i'm too nice of a guy.

Dan Martin

Simple solution:
-don't fix brakes
-girlfriend goes off cliff: leads to new girfriend opportunites
-now have money for hondata + playa status

jiggaman

YOU READ MY MIND

Stokeless_TSX

He just stated that is was on a dynopack. But he may have more than one. On the dynopack he stated he had 192.XX hp. And I don't recall the tq. Doesn't matter I am just glad people are starting to make power with these TSX's. This way more and more manufactures will make more products for us.

jlukja

That's so wrong
























but

iamhomin

With all my vacation plans, it's going to be hard for me to save up $600 immediately, but these dynos are making me consider plan B.

Plan B = Purchase Hondata, delay vacation.