tsx147

Has anyone ever used or herd a jpower camber kit on their 09+ tsx? I'm getting for a good deal and don't wanna pass this offer...but if its bad then I won't get it.. I'm getting just the rear..

ed_423

im awaiting reviews on the tsx as well. but for 8th gen accords, they've been getting pretty good reviews.

chaqui74

I'm running a set of Jpower 6pc and I've also had SPC and belive me there's no difference...

Euronoob

Where are you getting it OP? May I please know? I can't seem to find any on eBay... Do they ship to Australia?

HondoGermany

They ship to Australia
http://www.ebay.com/itm/180674374094...WAX:IT&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/180674554166...WAX:IT&vxp=mtr

Euronoob

Oh! There it is, thank you so much Hondo. I was searching "J Power" So nothing came up except these $20 cam somethings...

Edit: The second link is for both sides front and rear? Is that what it means by "All 4"? Cause if so, I might get that :o

tobwac

yes second one is front and back

opboarding

Those two listings dont really make sense to me. The second one looks like it includes the 3 arms and one ball joint for all 4 tires for a total of 16 components? The first listing says 3 arms each tire for just the rear, so a total of only 6 pieces. Yet the price is only $60 more for the second listing? I might email them, I might get these once I get my coilovers on depending on how much I end up dropping it.

potmilkz

its not confusing at all, not sure how you got 16 pieces.

its 3 arms on each side rear and 1 ball join for each side for the front. total 8 pieces.


2008-2011 Honda Accord, 2009+Acura TSX/TL J-Power Front + Rear Camber Correction Kit - 6 Pcs Rear Control Arm + Front Ball Joints

Item Specifications

• 
  
• Fitment:
• Honda Accord 2008-2011
• Acura TL 2009-2011
• Acura TSX 2009-2011
• 
  
• Front: Ball Joint - Max +1.25° (cotter pin included)
• Rear: Adjustable Control Arms - Camber: ±3.00°, Toe: ±1.00°, Setback/Wheel Base: ±1.00 inch
• Material: Made of Carbon Steel , Processed with Heat Treament to increase hardness and strength of metal, and bushings are made of Rubber
  
• Condition: 100% Brand New
• Quantity: 1 complete kit - front + rear - 4 wheels - instructions included
  

opboarding

New to suspension, got it now.

Euronoob

So, J Power VS SPC.

No difference really? I'm really in need of a full camber kit - front and rear. But SPC shipped to me is $740 from Heeltoe and $650-$670 on eBay, I forgot. J Power = $300-ish.

I'm trying to save money but scared of the quality.

ed_423

be careful, i was reading the j-power kit with teh front ball joints, the ball joints only go positive camber, not negative. (i think)

Euronoob

Ooo, good one Ed. I didn't notice that. I just checked and yeah, it's only for positive...
But I still want I know how 'good' J Power is. I could just get J Power rears and SPC ball points

ed_423

^ that's my plan. i don't know if i actually need the ball joints or not, if natural camber takes care of it then i guess i wont need them

rockstar143

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On the 3G...you'll find posts all over AZ where I say they are awesome etc...just piece of metal and no difference...but after having had them for a year and tearing up some tires due to bad alignments because of these, I've changed my tune.

I assure you, the fronts, you'll be fine...they allow both negative and positive camber adjustment and do the job fine...but the 4 arm rear toe/camber arms....STAY AWAY...The bushings in them are total crap. I had bad alignments...the car was super squirrely and unpredictable to drive etc...come to find out, they bushings pushed 1/2 way out of their arms...PLUS, these 2 arm kits bring your wheel IN at the bottom, lessening your width...not usually our goal. I was warned, and I ignored it.

Anyway, buyer beware...but from one frugal dude to another...get yourself some quality ones for the back. SPC upper arm or the eibach lowers.

J.

PPower

That's right. If you have negative camber caused by lowering, you need to add in positive camber to correct it. Unless you are going to make a lifted TSX, you need positive adjustment.

Euronoob

.... I think I might just have to fork out the money for the quality then..

I need your opinion guys.

My rears are about -4.5 but I need to run that to fit my wheels so should I just get 1 arm for the rears? I only want the rear arm so I can adjust it a bit when I want to. I was planning on just getting the 3 arm kit "just in case" I want/need to change it more than 1 degree.. but it's expensive $$.

As for the fronts, I'll just go with SPC again. Do Eibach have them for the CU2/TSX? I want to make my fronts MORE negative. I'm not trying to fix up my camber to make it back to 0.

ed_423

ah yes, i forgot to mention, we (euroboob and i) need or might need the extra negative member, that's why we are looking for the ball joints that can go negative. thank you though

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

Yeah, the SPC AND Jpower ones can both be oriented backward to ADD negative camber...only difference is that the jpower ones, once tightened do NOT press themselves in to where you can't rotate to do positive rather than negative...the SPC on, once you tighten the bolt down, they get pressed into place and you'd need one of those kits to unpress them to rotate to switch to negative/positive camber.

Hope that makes sense...

opboarding

I bought the Jpower 6 piece rear and front ball joints a few weeks ago, but havent installed them yet. I read that chaqui74's response to them and he said that he's been running them no problem. Now I am second guessing them reading rockstar's posts. I really don't want to deal with big problems later on with them...

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

Well, to be honest, I'm just sharing my experience with them. The product itself is fine, but not the bushing material on the rear arms. Made my car scary to drive going quickly on turns...

BUT, maybe the dynamics of a 3G are different than another car, maybe the person that does the alignment not setting it properly made things worse...I don't want to scare anyone but after having been someone that is frugal on things...I will not go cheap on camber kits again.

J.

ed_423

^ it's definitely great that you shared your experience with us rockstar! i've never heard bad reviews about them until you brought it up, so that gives me something to think about

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

Thanks man...
I ended up reselling mine on ebay...but for VERY cheap and with the recommendation that the person get the bushings replaced with a harder one.

opboarding

I read some people who have been running them for a year or more and no problems. Do you think it was the heat that did it possibly? We both have roughly the same summer weather, just trying to think of other ways that yours might have gone bad. Now I am really hesitant about keeping mine. Suspension is pretty important.

ed_423

^ opb, lmk if you don't want yours. although i am still debating lol

opboarding

K. I'll be doing more research on them.

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

It could be, man...but I felt it immediately...installed it and already, was making a right turn and the rear of the car would get kinda squirrely on me (kinda wiggle)...thought maybe it was just the need for an alignment or the fact that the rear was lessening the track since you're bringing the bottom of the tire in...I kept them like that for a year...one day, I decided to take a closer look and see if my car felt confident and good to drive again with the oem rear bottom arms...popped them back in and everything made sense...the bad tire wear even after 4 alignments...the car feeling unstable, everything...the bushings were 1/2 pushed out on both sides.

I rocked NO camber kit for a while...and eventually opted for the SPC upper camber arms. Haven't looked back since.

J.

MrHeeltoe

iTrader: (1)

I think the best bet for rear camber adjustment is really this kit:

http://www.heeltoeauto.com/product.p...8&cat=0&page=1


Trustworthy company, trustworthy vendor...much more simple and fairly priced kit than the whole 3-arm thing.

Euronoob

What would you suggest for the front? Or just the SPC ball point?

Note: I am trying to get NEGATIVE camber, not trying to get POSITIVE.

rockstar143

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^^^that is front and upper rear arm...Marcus basically just agreed with me. And for $320 for the whole setup, not a bad deal either. AND it's ingall's...which is quality.

Both of those will allow you to run MORE or LESS camber...front goes shorter than the oem upper arm and front, depending on which way you orient the little slider thing, will do the same thing...allow for MORE negative camber.

MrHeeltoe

iTrader: (1)

For the front I would not change anything if your goal is to correct (add more positive) camber. I would let the camber do what it does. After all , negative camber really doesn't have much of a downside if kept to a reasonable level. It would actually handle better with some negative.

As far as trying to get MORE negative, I would go with these as they say they could give an additional 1.5 degrees negative:
http://www.heeltoeauto.com/_search.p...=35592&x=0&y=0

Euronoob

Ok, so I'll get the Ingalls adjustable ball point for the CU2

http://www.heeltoeauto.com/ingalls-e...cu2-35592.html

And which do I get for the rear if I just want 1 arm SPC? The rear camber arm or the lateral arm? What is the lateral arm exactly? The pictures are the same for those two items.

PPower

He pictured the rear toe adjustment which is all you need for mild lowering to correct toe but not camber. The upgrade to that is to buy the camber and lateral arms giving you the 3 arm set.

Euronoob

Not sure if I need a toe adjustment though.

I'm just looking for 1 arm rear and the ball point for the front.

KillerG

i have the jpower kit... gonna install next weekend. will report back immediately if i die

opboarding

I'm hoping to install mine this long weekend too.

Also, rockstar, did you buy these?
The arms for the cu2/4th gen tl look a lot different

I read around on the 8th gen accord forums and there were a lot of people saying they recommended them. I'm hoping the bushings are better quality in ours? They at least look a lot nicer.

MrHeeltoe

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The pictured kit is for toe and camber adjustment in the rear. No additional arms are needed. The adjustable ball joint handles the camber adjustment.

AniMaLisTiK

Alright, I have to but in cause my -2 camber has officially given my car the NASTY shakes and I'm looking to order a kit ASAP.... I'm running -2 camber on the rear. And honestly am NOT racing my car... So, I'm in the same boat that you are OPboarding & EUROnoob, I need help. I understand that SPC is the way to go but is worth shelling out SOO much extra money, if another product will do the same thing?!?!

AniMaLisTiK

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